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XBCD 0.2.7 Discussion
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RE: XBCD 0.2.7
no worries

04-03-2011 01:12 PM
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RE: XBCD 0.2.7
after rebooting FFB stopped working on my speedster 3. Tried reinstalling 0.2.7 but it didn't help.

All games still show the option to turn it on or off, but nothing happens either way. Dxdiag shows that the wheel is using the xbcdr.dll FFB driver as well.

Any ideas what could be the problem?

Windows 7 x64 btw.
04-04-2011 03:45 AM
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RE: XBCD 0.2.7
do you have the Visual C 2010 SP1 runtime installed?

both dll's are built against 2010 so you need both the x86 and x64 redistributables installed

Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable SP1 (x86)
Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable SP1 (x64)

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04-04-2011 05:22 AM
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RE: XBCD 0.2.7
yup, both installed.

I just tried another full uninstall/install. Before doing so I removed all registry entries for xbcd and removed all xbcd files found on my system, hidden files etc..

Still running in test mode, I rebooted, installed XBCD 0.2.7, signed "c:\windows\system32\drivers\xbcd.sys", and rebooted again. Then went to device manager to update the controller and I get a window saying:

"Windows encountered a problem installing the driver software for your device."

"Windows found driver software for your device but encountered an error while attempting to install it."

XBCD Xbox Steering Wheel

"There is no driver selected for the device information set or element."

No idea what's going on. I -may- have installed xbcd 1.07 at some point in the past and xbcd 0.2.7 might have been installed on top of 1.07...

0.2.7 is completely self contained though right? No need for anything else?
04-04-2011 05:35 AM
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RE: XBCD 0.2.7
if 1.07 was installed previously, it can bork the setup, i've had people getting issues trying to overwrite 1.7's rumble dll.

in device manager, right click the controller, uninstall with delete drivers selected
uninstall xbcd 2.x and reinstall 1.7, then remove that.

reboot and reinstall the latest xbcd then reconnect your controller.

04-04-2011 05:39 AM
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RE: XBCD 0.2.7
Same thing again. BTW, it shows up as 'Unknown Device" in device manager, no MS common controller class at all.
04-04-2011 06:03 AM
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RE: XBCD 0.2.7 Discussion
try installing the driver files copied to the xbcd\driver folder, sometimes the pnf file helps.

OH, also use the command console with elevation and use pnputil (pnputil -e to check, pnputil -d [inf name] to delete) to check for currently installed versions of the xbcd driver, sometimes the driver cache isn't updated properly and it screws the install up.

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RE: XBCD 0.2.7 Discussion
Still the same.

pnputil -e shows:

oem36.inf
XBCD Project
Human Interface Devices
16/05/2008 1.1.0

oem37.inf
XBCD Project
Human Interface Devices
16/05/2008 1.1.0

oem38.inf
XBCD Project
Human Interface Devices
16/05/2008 1.1.0

oem39.inf
Redcl0ud
Human Interface Devices
5/13/2005 1.0.7

I'm assuming oem39.inf needs to be gone?
04-04-2011 06:24 AM
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RE: XBCD 0.2.7 Discussion
get rid of them all, they could all be blocking the install.
04-04-2011 06:28 AM
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RE: XBCD 0.2.7 Discussion
That fixed it, installed and working.. except for the force feedback/vibration.

Which is odd... after you added speedster 3 I downloaded 0.2.7 again and reinstalled it over top of the existing 0.2.7 and FFB started working.

FFB works in the setup utility test sliders, and it can be toggled off/on in games ( not greyed out as it is when there is no FFB support for the wheel), it just doesn't do anything.

Live For Speed reports "CreateEffect Failed" "Could not setup FF steer device".

iRacing doesn't do anything either.

Edit: Nm, got FFB working. Had to change from 'Virtual Hid Device' to '6 axis 10 button device' in the Game Controllers dialog. Smile
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RE: XBCD 0.2.7 Discussion
ah, hmm, the rumble driver might not have full ff support for wheels, the 32bit rumble supports constant, square, triangle, ramp, sawtoothup and down, but i don't know about the wheel effects.

can you test FEDIT?
http://cid-27912d77b8396c7e.office.live..../fedit.exe
04-04-2011 06:59 AM
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RE: XBCD 0.2.7 Discussion
Yea, I'm testing it.. no idea what I'm doing though Smile
What am I looking for?

The ones you mentioned mostly just shake the wheel back and forth between 11 and 1 o'clock.

All the other stuff doesn't do anything and changing the settings of the effects throws a SetParameters() failed message.
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04-04-2011 07:15 AM
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Post: #33
RE: XBCD 0.2.7 Discussion
I have the drivers installed and all works well until I put my PC to sleep. When I turn it back on, all my controller does is flash all four of the rings.

The controller will then only work if I either restart my computer or plug/replug it back in.

Did I screw something up or is that just the way it is? I'm using Windows 7 64 bit.
(This post was last modified: 04-21-2011 02:43 AM by joe531.)
04-21-2011 02:42 AM
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RE: XBCD 0.2.7 Discussion
hmm it seems its an issue with newer 360 controls, like the crazy setup app screens

both were fixed previously.

04-21-2011 12:47 PM
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RE: XBCD 0.2.7 Discussion
Oh I see...

Well it's just a minor inconvenience I suppose since I really only put my computer to sleep at night.

I'm sure it'll get fixed eventually. :D
04-21-2011 01:27 PM
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RE: XBCD 0.2.7 Discussion
I've spent about 12 hours reading this and other forums and I've gone from having working MS drivers to having no drivers working at all. Hopefully someone can help me at least get back to where I was in the beginning. Unfortunately I realized System Restore had been disabled half way through Sad

Windows 7 64 bit
Test mode enabled using Driver Signature Enforcement Overrider
Visual C++ 2010 x64 and x86 installed
Ran xbcd 027 as admin

I have 3 3rd party xbox 360 controllers that I need to add to the inf file as well but it's still not installing correctly
I followed the installation guide as best I could but it's giving an error:
Windows cannot load the device driver for this hardware. The driver may be corrupted or missing. (Code 39)

When I try installing the MS drivers it shows several in there. I can't seem to remove them:
[Image: 1.jpg]

When I try installing XBCD
[Image: 2.jpg]

%XBCD.DeviceDesc% =Install, USB\VID_0E6F&PID_0201 ; MadCatz GamePad
%XBCD.DeviceDesc% =Install, USB\VID_0738&PID_4716 ; TSZ360 Pad

Am I missing something?
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RE: XBCD 0.2.7 Discussion
the madcats is already listed as a pelican controller via

%XBCD_360.DeviceDesc% =Install, USB\VID_0E6F&PID_0201 ; Pelican XSZ Wired Controller (Model #PL-3601) , which is fine because Mad Catz bought out pelican so they are the same controller in reality.

and theTSZ360 is supported via

%XBCD_360.DeviceDesc% =Install, USB\VID_0738&PID_4716 ; Madcatz Xbox 360 Controller

most likely the driver is installed to the HID device instead of the common controller device, or the xbcd.sys file is not actually signed... since ngohq's tool fails to apply directly to the system32 directory, you need to move the file outside of it and then back when it is signed.

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RE: XBCD 0.2.7 Discussion
Thank you for your response I really appreciate it.

I'm pretty sure that you are correct when you said that the
"driver is installed to the HID device instead of the common controller device"

How do I get the regular Microsoft drivers to work right. Maybe once I get back to that point I can get xbcd working.

I've tried using pnputil -d to remove all Microsoft Common Controller for Windows Class as well as xbcd drivers.

When I plug in a controller it installs:

Human Interface Devices
USB Input Device (With error: Windows cannot load the device driver for this hardware. The driver may be corrupted or missing. (Code 39)

Microsoft Common Controller For Windows Class
Xbox 360 Controller for Windows


I try updating USB Input Device to the HID-Compliant game controller driver however nothing appears in Game Controllers. I do know that it is somewhat working because when I press the center button I see the little Microsoft Xbox 360 Accessories status popup.
05-27-2011 07:14 PM
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RE: XBCD 0.2.7 Discussion
entirely remove the xbcd driver from device manager, and uninstall XBCD to clear up any created registry entries.

then reboot, in some cases this is necessary for some reason, its probably because the NPNP HID driver isn't stopped properly

05-27-2011 07:50 PM
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RE: XBCD 0.2.7 Discussion
In device manager I've uninstalled and deleted all xbcd and microsoft xbox drivers, uninstalled all xbcd drivers, restarted. and when I plug in my controller and search for drivers online it still comes up like this:
[Image: 4.jpg]
I wonder if this has anything to do with it. The driver details for USB Input Device shows the following:

[Image: 5.jpg]

hidclass.sys and hidusb.sys show version 6.1.7601.17514 (win7sp1_rtm..
whereas hidparse.sys show version 6.1.7600.16385 (win7_rtm...

I just tried uninstalling SP1 which reverted hidclass.sys and hidusb.sys back to version 6.1.7600.16385

Still didn't work, so I upgraded again to SP1 and it still show's hidparse.sys the same as before.

I've run through a sfc /scannow with no luck.
(This post was last modified: 05-28-2011 03:51 AM by 50up3r9uy.)
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